Snell's recap of Tilkov's recap of several QCon talks

I much prefer the second one of his notes, it is more direct. First part of his notes needs filtering and is too wide to focus on for any specific problem as a guideline or similar

Anyway, it seems that after 7 years of playing around, inventing, specifying, complicating, marketing and selling the SOAP, REST, XML, SOA, and WS hype we are realising that it is never going to be suitable for a number of important domains/problems.

Frankly I was shocked by the state of levitation of SOA chasing crowd recently, they absolutelly believe in 'dynamic, magic, middleware, loosely, long-running' business models and BizTalks and J2EE-derivatives solving the world hunger problem.

While it was inspiring to hear a few of them say, sure it is NOT suitable for X, Y and Z industry or businesses, somehow they still retain the belief support, integration and business machinery will hold up the frenzy while the costs involved in infrastructure are massive and often create more problems than SOA or HTTP or REST in themselves solve.

But "told myself so"! :-)

PHP just cost MS, what was it, 100s of million dollars, whether you call that Simple-On-Account, Real-Easy-Spending-Transfer money model or Request/Response, Chunked Encoding or similar nonsense..

Not frameworks, not mothership architectures, not middleware nor idealisms.

Ideas only.

> "First part of his notes needs filtering and is too wide to focus on for any specific problem as a guideline or similar"

Yeah, it really was a kind of stream-of-thoughts kind of post. I was short on time and wanted to at least get the thoughts down.

Wasn't meant as a criticism at all.. I love looking at such 'streams of thoughts', they work very well as a reminder at least.. to an extent I believe they are unlike any other slow, structured, handy, precise, linked etc, annotation method.

Sure, difficult to get them down "right on the button" or for them to be "universal", problem specific etc.

The entry is indeed full of information, it is somehow pretty well structured and concise, at least so we can get the context from the early SOAP and pre-Google days and how it all changed. Probably my favourite comment I have seen this year is right there: "that's it, a byte" one.

Please keep it up..

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