Featured resource
2026 Tech Forecast
2026 Tech Forecast

1,500+ tech insiders, business leaders, and Pluralsight Authors share their predictions on what’s shifting fastest and how to stay ahead.

Download the forecast

Prove the ROI of Upskilling

with Molly Poeschl • October 13, 2026

Episode overview

How do you prove that upskilling actually pays off? In this episode, Josh sits down with Molly Poeschl, Director of Enterprise Supply Chain Product Management at Kimberly-Clark, who stood up a brand-new product management organization inside one of the world’s most established consumer goods companies and had to build the playbook as she went. Molly breaks down the three things her team measures to show learning ROI: engagement, user adoption, and movement on real business KPIs. She also explains why the hardest return to capture is the one that matters most: frontline workers who no longer fear technology and now treat it as a partner.

The conversation is full of practical ideas for L&D and technology leaders. Why one-size-fits-all training is the biggest mistake leaders make when presenting learning outcomes, and how role-based learning tracks fix it. How to resolve competing definitions of success across plant managers, planners, and executives by telling the story behind the data. How Kimberly-Clark tied learning paths directly to its product roadmap. And Molly’s take on the AI headlines: it is not eliminating jobs, it is taking the mundane clicking off people’s plates. Molly closes with two practical steps any leader can take today to tie upskilling to measurable outcomes.

Connect with Molly Poeschl:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mollypoeschl/
Kimberly-Clark: https://www.kimberly-clark.com/

Chapters

00:00 Intro

01:10 Molly's journey to Kimberly-Clark

03:16 Why product management over project management

04:36 Launching the Enterprise Product Management Organization

06:15 Writing a new playbook from scratch

08:48 What ROI actually measures in upskilling

10:40 From solution-first to value-first thinking

12:15 The return that doesn't fit in a spreadsheet

13:52 How different stakeholders define success

15:25 Resolving competing KPIs by telling the story

16:55 Communicating value to learners

20:01 Turning a business outcome into a learning path

22:47 Meeting people where they are

25:31 Communicating ROI to executives

27:40 The biggest mistake leaders make

30:27 Why skills investment survives budget cuts

33:46 What the AI headlines are missing

35:54 Human qualities that matter most now

38:22 Two practical steps to prove ROI

40:11 Connect with Molly and closing thoughts

Stay up to date on specific tech domains

Subscribe to our AI, cloud, and security newsletters.